New Immigration Law in Arizona!!!

[barack obama]

Ok for those of you living under a rock...

the State of Arizona has just passed a law that allows Police officers to
ask people for I.D.'s if you cannot prove you're american you will be deported on the spot.

Any input on the subject?

[barack obama]

I will add this has been in place quite some time in California. Mostly in "El Puente": where cars and passengers are made to get in single file and wait until an officer walks to the car.

All persons are asked for ID the ones without ID are then escorted to a waiting INS bus to be checked out.

Once again those who cannot prove they are american are deported on the spot.

There was a lawsuit against the cit of West Covina which is still working itway through higher courts, on the base that
it allows for Racial Profiling.

[joshkrow]

How exactly do they deport you? Make you turn the car around and follow you to the border? I don't think this will be enforced very heavily.

[joshkrow]

Sorry your second post came through after mine was posted. So they just drive you to the border and drop you off and you lose your stuff? IDK it just seems fucked up.

[pad]

so this lax stop and identify law will become obsolete? http://www.azleg.gov/FormatDocument.asp?inDoc=/ars/13/02412.htm&Title=13&DocType=ARS

i am only concerned with this being abused by the police. i can totally picture them harassing anyone and everyone on the grounds of "LOL DON'T MAKE ME DEPORT THAT ASS, WUT YO NAME IS PATNA?"

[worldismine]

Exploit this shit to get a free trip to Mexico. Just don't show credentials ... Let them transport you... sip margaritas ... fuck mamacitas ... get cheap meds... come back to US. Rinse + Repeat.

[joshkrow]

Exploit this shit to get a free trip to Mexico. Just don't show credentials ... Let them transport you... sip margaritas ... fuck mamacitas ... get cheap meds... come back to US. Rinse + Repeat.

OH SHIT! Free vacation.

[pad]

Exploit this shit to get a free trip to Mexico. Just don't show credentials ... Let them transport you... sip margaritas ... fuck mamacitas ... get cheap meds... come back to US. Rinse + Repeat.
they'd run your pockets at the police station and uncover your id, and if you weren't carrying it you'd probably have trouble reentering the country. then again i suppose you could always claim to have lost it in mexico. but i can't really picture the cops deporting a caucasian dude with a joe schmo american dialect in the first place. brush up on your spanglish for this to work. but i mean, even if you were turned over to the .mx authorities, and didn't identify yourself, you'd be stuck in a filthy mexican jail. if you identified yourself as an american citizen they'd immediately turn you back over to US authorities.

[Cheese OG]

not a good thing overall, for us actual americans. eventually it will come to the point that if you're walking down the street, you can be stopped for no reason. i know this happens to nigger, but i dont want this happening to me...

[unholy]

God Bless This Guy

[barack obama]

eventually it will come to the point that if you're walking down the street, you can be stopped for no reason. i know this happens to niggers, but i dont want this happening to me... :(

rofl

[linx]

there goes half of arizona

[josez]

how are you deported on the spot? i figured they'd take you to a detention facility and hold u for a couple of days perhaps and get a grip of people and take them all over on a bus or some shit.

[skrilled]

In Florida they can take you to jail if you don't have your ID or money on you.

[skrilled]

Also cops can't stop you for no reasons. If a police officer pulls you over for speeding it is actually illegal for him to ask to search your car, or to ask where you're going, or anything that isn't directly relative to the exact reason he pulled you over to begin with. They don't teach anybody their legal rights in school though so most of us just let the cops do what they want.

[josez]

In Florida they can take you to jail if you don't have your ID or money on you.
yarp^

[2fast]

so funny the beans didnt even start to complain till the bill was passed.

[josez]

rofl @ the beans what a stupid slur.

[dna]

^ fucking taco cricket

[josez]

lol cricket? wtf
keep at it, you'll get there.

[Pizza]

there goes half of arizona


Thank god

[tha homie]

yarp^

hmmmm?

[dna]

lol cricket? wtf
keep at it, you'll get there.

tacos because, well, it's obvious
cricket because your people like to jump the boarder

taco cricket

[josez]

i didnt know crickets were famous for their jumping abilities.
also, the flea is the animal that can just the farthest distance, proportionally speaking. it would be the equivalent of a human jumping three football fields.

[dna]

idk maybe i'll just call you a dryback. this mexican i work with insists on being called a dryback since he walked over the boarder. he says wetbacks are those faggots from cuba or who swim to safety.

[Achooist]

In Florida they can take you to jail if you don't have your ID or money on you.
This is true ^



Also cops can't stop you for no reasons. If a police officer pulls you over for speeding it is actually illegal for him to ask to search your car, or to ask where you're going, or anything that isn't directly relative to the exact reason he pulled you over to begin with. They don't teach anybody their legal rights in school though so most of us just let the cops do what they want.
This may be true...but it's really not.
They have "probable cause"
And if you say no you're going to jail for resisting arrest.

I can also see cops harassing people with this.

Fuck da police

[josez]

This is true ^



This may be true...but it's really not.
They have "probable cause"
And if you say no you're going to jail for resisting arrest.

I can also see cops harassing people with this.

Fuck da police
saying no to a search is not resisting arrest nor will you go to jail for it.

[dna]

saying no to a search is not resisting arrest nor will you go to jail for it.

^ this.

without a warrant cops can't do shit.

[Gangstarr]

illegals better get some dark as tinted windows

[siniko]

Az is shit so idgaf

[Krazie]

Cops are dicks, and that won't change. However in certain areas in the country I think this is a good thing. Illegals are fucking flooding DE/PA/MD areas. You can't go a mile without seeing one of these fuckheads on the corner selling flowers or some shit.

The neighborhood my gf use to live in years back, she had some mexicans move in across from her. The mailman delivered their mail to her on accident one time and it was their welfare checks and shit.. they had it addressed to 123 blah street (example) apartment 222, apartment 225 apartment 421, etc. This was a fucking single family house, with 12+ people living in there all collecting welfare and shit. It's fucking stupid the way this country is being ran. Now even more taxes to pay for these illegals who send their anchor babies to public schools, and we have to pay for spanish speaking teachers. Fuck that, this is America, and all of this fucking being PC bullshit is stupid as fuck.

The mexicans love PA because they can get license plates/registration stickers just by going to an auto shop. Every time in DE/MD you see a PA car doing 30 in a 50mph lane, you know it's a fucking illegal mexican before even getting next to it. Fuckers have caused so many accidents it's not even funny. I say ship all their asses back, or better yet, just shoot them in the face. They have no fucking rights. They're here illegally anyway, so they shouldn't even be treated like humans. They can get away with fucking murder and have the ACLU shouting racial profiling and get them off, and they're free to go back to mexico.... 20 minutes later they jump the boarder and are back. I say fuck em.

[josez]

Cops are dicks, and that won't change. However in certain areas in the country I think this is a good thing. Illegals are fucking flooding DE/PA/MD areas. You can't go a mile without seeing one of these fuckheads on the corner selling flowers or some shit.

The neighborhood my gf use to live in years back, she had some mexicans move in across from her. The mailman delivered their mail to her on accident one time and it was their welfare checks and shit.. they had it addressed to 123 blah street (example) apartment 222, apartment 225 apartment 421, etc. This was a fucking single family house, with 12+ people living in there all collecting welfare and shit. It's fucking stupid the way this country is being ran. Now even more taxes to pay for these illegals who send their anchor babies to public schools, and we have to pay for spanish speaking teachers. Fuck that, this is America, and all of this fucking being PC bullshit is stupid as fuck.

The mexicans love PA because they can get license plates/registration stickers just by going to an auto shop. Every time in DE/MD you see a PA car doing 30 in a 50mph lane, you know it's a fucking illegal mexican before even getting next to it. Fuckers have caused so many accidents it's not even funny. I say ship all their asses back, or better yet, just shoot them in the face. They have no fucking rights. They're here illegally anyway, so they shouldn't even be treated like humans. They can get away with fucking murder and have the ACLU shouting racial profiling and get them off, and they're free to go back to mexico.... 20 minutes later they jump the boarder and are back. I say fuck em.
lol in all my years of knowing illegals i have never known any to be on 'welfare'. they all have jobs. i dont know where this claim comes from

[capone]

lol in all my years of knowing illegals i have never known any to be on 'welfare'. they all have jobs. i dont know where this claim comes from

Rofl, if you're an illegal immigrant I promise your not getting welfare.

Taking others jobs for dirt cheap cash payments, and slamming your uninsured vehicles into my nice new car on the other hand, happens frequently.

[Butt Zombie]

These things happen in tandem with economic cycles. During times of strong economic growth, we see a strong corresponding down-shift in hostile attitude and behavior toward illegal immigrants... likewise, there's a corresponding uptick as the economy slows or trends downward. Given the current economy, it's a very bad time to be Hispanic in AZ.

[enemy of juden]

this is awesome because it is the first time in decades that a protected class has screamed out racism and everyone said so what. white americans didnt build this civilization to be drained dry by subhumans who could never create such a thing themselves. the truth is this law is racist, but it doesnt matter because all mestizos are scum and our country wont survive another 10 years if a single one of them is allowed to stay. they are just as bad as niggers and they know it themselves. the only reason statistics show mestizos as being better behaved or more intelligent than niggers is because "hispanic" isnt a race and many mestizos are counted as white to skew statistics. the immigration act of 1965 was drafted and promoted by jews for the jewish interest of breeding whites out of existence.
mestizos created mexico. anywhere they go turns into a slum because they are animals. the people in mexico create propaganda for their criminals and underclass to go to america because they dont want to deal with them. if they dont want them back they should be killed. every mestizo is scum. yes, they do collect welfare. when states try to pass laws saying illegals cant get welfare they are called racist and courts strike it down even if the people vote for it.
frankly the argument that we need an idiot underclass to do landscaping and pick fruit is canceled out by the rising rates of autism.
mestizos are obviouslty a problem because of the rate that they breed.
first they will all be deported or killed by the will of the people that no government can overturn or control. real americans are starting to realize this shit isnt in their best intrests and are wondering who is running the show.
after that people will probably do their research and all jews will be killed along with israel being nuked. we cant just ship them all to israel because they are too dangerous. for this to end and for western civilization to survive every jew in the world must be killed.
after that we can deal with the niggers asians and whoever else doesnt fit the criteria of someone who deserves the fruits of white civilization.
the modern american nigger is so used to a life of luxury none of them will survive in africa, so it doesnt matter if we deport or kill them.
when every non white on the face of the earth is killed or residing in their homeland it will usher in a new era of prosparity. all of the problems in every white country are due to forced immigration of sub animal minorities. ever wonder why they dont tell asian or black nations they need to be diverse and accept immigrants who do not belong? it's because the jews are behind all of this. they know whites are the only race capible of producing a functional civilization without any help. if they can destroy this they can enslave the world for their profit.

[Butt Zombie]

this is awesome because it is the first time in decades that a protected class has screamed out racism and everyone said so what. white americans didnt build this civilization to be drained dry by subhumans who could never create such a thing themselves. the truth is this law is racist, but it doesnt matter because all mestizos are scum and our country wont survive another 10 years if a single one of them is allowed to stay. they are just as bad as niggers and they know it themselves. the only reason statistics show mestizos as being better behaved or more intelligent than niggers is because "hispanic" isnt a race and many mestizos are counted as white to skew statistics. the immigration act of 1965 was drafted and promoted by jews for the jewish interest of breeding whites out of existence.
mestizos created mexico. anywhere they go turns into a slum because they are animals. the people in mexico create propaganda for their criminals and underclass to go to america because they dont want to deal with them. if they dont want them back they should be killed. every mestizo is scum. yes, they do collect welfare. when states try to pass laws saying illegals cant get welfare they are called racist and courts strike it down even if the people vote for it.
frankly the argument that we need an idiot underclass to do landscaping and pick fruit is canceled out by the rising rates of autism.
mestizos are obviouslty a problem because of the rate that they breed.
first they will all be deported or killed by the will of the people that no government can overturn or control. real americans are starting to realize this shit isnt in their best intrests and are wondering who is running the show.
after that people will probably do their research and all jews will be killed along with israel being nuked. we cant just ship them all to israel because they are too dangerous. for this to end and for western civilization to survive every jew in the world must be killed.
after that we can deal with the niggers asians and whoever else doesnt fit the criteria of someone who deserves the fruits of white civilization.
the modern american nigger is so used to a life of luxury none of them will survive in africa, so it doesnt matter if we deport or kill them.
when every non white on the face of the earth is killed or residing in their homeland it will usher in a new era of prosparity. all of the problems in every white country are due to forced immigration of sub animal minorities. ever wonder why they dont tell asian or black nations they need to be diverse and accept immigrants who do not belong? it's because the jews are behind all of this. they know whites are the only race capible of producing a functional civilization without any help. if they can destroy this they can enslave the world for their profit.

Crawl back in your hole, crazy. Sane people are talking here.

Edit:
frankly the argument that we need an idiot underclass to do landscaping and pick fruit is canceled out by the rising rates of autism.

ROFL.. you really are totally batshit. Awesome.

[Krazie]

lol in all my years of knowing illegals i have never known any to be on 'welfare'. they all have jobs. i dont know where this claim comes from
It's coming in other peoples names who are here legally. They have a couple people living in the house who are here legally, getting welfare. For everyone one legal person in that house 2-3 are here illegally. The ones here illegally are the ones who are doing day labor really cheap. That or like I said earlier, they're on the corner selling flowers.

A lot of restaurants around here hire illegals, and apartments in DE/MD also have cars there with PA tags. It's not hard to spot illegals from legals here. The people who are here legally, cool, gj, enjoy, etc. The ones here who are nothing but leeches, and being a reason taxes are going up, and shit like that... those are the ones who should get shot in the face.

With this law I feel bad for the people from Mexico who are here legally, cause you know they will be getting harassed by cops left and right. The ones here illegally.. break their knees so they can't jump the boarder :)

[Achooist]

I <3 illegal immigrants, do you know why?
They're cheap as fuck.

If I'm going to hire somebody do you think I'm going to pick the guy that'll work for $1/h or $20/h?
I'm for sure hiring the guy that's working for cheaper.

"STEALING OUR JORBZ!"
No, you're just a lazy fuck who thinks they deserve more than other people because you're American?

[Achooist]

saying no to a search is not resisting arrest nor will you go to jail for it.
Bullshit, they have "probable cause"
Go for a midnight drive and get pulled over for speeding, and say no to being searched.
You're either A) Going to have a SRS amount of money to pay for in tickets or
B) Going to sit there for hours until the cop gets his warrant.

[KOiN]

imagine getting deported and you aren't illegal

lol

[Krazie]

Bullshit, they have "probable cause"
Going to sit there for hours until the cop gets his warrant.

That's what usually happens. Then they fuck with you the whole time because you just wasted their time lol

[monomo]

Really ? do you even think this will change anything? Ha ha ha

[dbolm666]

Cops are dicks, and that won't change. However in certain areas in the country I think this is a good thing. Illegals are fucking flooding DE/PA/MD areas. You can't go a mile without seeing one of these fuckheads on the corner selling flowers or some shit.

The neighborhood my gf use to live in years back, she had some mexicans move in across from her. The mailman delivered their mail to her on accident one time and it was their welfare checks and shit.. they had it addressed to 123 blah street (example) apartment 222, apartment 225 apartment 421, etc. This was a fucking single family house, with 12+ people living in there all collecting welfare and shit. It's fucking stupid the way this country is being ran. Now even more taxes to pay for these illegals who send their anchor babies to public schools, and we have to pay for spanish speaking teachers. Fuck that, this is America, and all of this fucking being PC bullshit is stupid as fuck.

The mexicans love PA because they can get license plates/registration stickers just by going to an auto shop. Every time in DE/MD you see a PA car doing 30 in a 50mph lane, you know it's a fucking illegal mexican before even getting next to it. Fuckers have caused so many accidents it's not even funny. I say ship all their asses back, or better yet, just shoot them in the face. They have no fucking rights. They're here illegally anyway, so they shouldn't even be treated like humans. They can get away with fucking murder and have the ACLU shouting racial profiling and get them off, and they're free to go back to mexico.... 20 minutes later they jump the boarder and are back. I say fuck em.


the fuck you doing after this bro...going to a clan meeting?

[dbolm666]

"STEALING OUR JORBZ!"


ya spelt it wrong partner...its Yob's. Gotta pronounce that shit with a Y instead of a J

[Krazie]

the fuck you doing after this bro...going to a clan meeting?
yeah let me find my pointed hat thing.. wait that can't be me they are whitehat, I'm not. Damn :(

[rob-beatz]

will pasty white people get deported to canada and black people to africa?

[joshkrow]

will pasty white people get deported to canada and black people to africa?

Not all Canananadians are pasty

[siniko]

i kno a lot of illegal polakz but none of them will be asked to show id

[vazel]

You ask me we need another nationwide Operation Wetback (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Wetback).

[cheeeeese]

You ask me we need another nationwide Operation Wetback (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Wetback).


it seems this new law is being run by conservatives



hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[ieyeasu]

lol, wedge issue

[1337ninjer]

in california they tried to make me prove i was an american at the DMV i started shouting how that law was only meant to fuck with mexicans and they gave me my licence just to shut me up.

[1337ninjer]

oh shit i just had an idea how to get a cheap half price trip to europe. get pulled over in arizona and tell them youre an illegal frenchman get deported and then have someone mail you your passport so you can get back home you only pay for a 1 way ticket.... better still when youre ready to go home turn yourself in as an illegal in france and get deported back to the US.

[mje173]

PATNA

[siniko]

oh shit i just had an idea how to get a cheap half price trip to europe. get pulled over in arizona and tell them youre an illegal frenchman get deported and then have someone mail you your passport so you can get back home you only pay for a 1 way ticket.... better still when youre ready to go home turn yourself in as an illegal in france and get deported back to the US.
post pics from france

[McJigga]

This is a great law! Way to go Arizona!

Also, check this out: http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/local/san_francisco&id=7417829

It seems that people REALLY want illegal immigrants in this country, and if you are against illegal immigration, that somehow makes you a racist.

How is it that every other country in the fucking world gets to deal with immigration in their own way, but the second the U.S government tries to actually enforce an immigration policy that is to our collective benefit, people get in an uproar over it? I mean for christ sakes they are fucking ILLEGAL ALIENS. They are here ILLEGALLY in the first place.

[Cheese OG]

It's coming in other peoples names who are here legally. They have a couple people living in the house who are here legally, getting welfare. For everyone one legal person in that house 2-3 are here illegally. The ones here illegally are the ones who are doing day labor really cheap. That or like I said earlier, they're on the corner selling flowers.

A lot of restaurants around here hire illegals, and apartments in DE/MD also have cars there with PA tags. It's not hard to spot illegals from legals here. The people who are here legally, cool, gj, enjoy, etc. The ones here who are nothing but leeches, and being a reason taxes are going up, and shit like that... those are the ones who should get shot in the face.

With this law I feel bad for the people from Mexico who are here legally, cause you know they will be getting harassed by cops left and right. The ones here illegally.. break their knees so they can't jump the boarder :)


you're a clown. you dont belong in this convo. most of the "illegals" in MD/DC/VA arent from mexico

[tutton]

This is a great law! Way to go Arizona!

Also, check this out: http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/local/san_francisco&id=7417829

It seems that people REALLY want illegal immigrants in this country, and if you are against illegal immigration, that somehow makes you a racist.

How is it that every other country in the fucking world gets to deal with immigration in their own way, but the second the U.S government tries to actually enforce an immigration policy that is to our collective benefit, people get in an uproar over it? I mean for christ sakes they are fucking ILLEGAL ALIENS. They are here ILLEGALLY in the first place.
you should read some more posts by enemy of juden's. it all has to do with the jews trying to wipe us out.

[McJigga]

you should read some more posts by enemy of juden's. it all has to do with the jews trying to wipe us out.


Lmfao, I would read them just for their hilarity. After he told me he spent $50,000 on ex-gay therapy and has a certificate to prove he is not gay, i can't take him seriously anymore. But they guy is prob. good for some lolz.

[tm]

State of Arizona has just passed a law that allows Police officers to
ask people for I.D.'s if you cannot prove you're american you will be deported on the spot.

This is not true. If you do not have an ID or cannot prove your citizenship, even after a full investigation, you will be taken to a federal holding station. You do not get deported on the spot, and you DO get investigated, and you CAN call your home to bring your ID or birth cert. This does not allow police to randomly search mexicans.

This law does not endorse or promote racial profiling. If you took as much time reading the law as you did to post it, you would understand that it clearly states that "no investigation should take place based solely on race"

How could an American be against this? Arizona is setting up to do the work the federal government says they will do. There is no hope though, Obama has plainly stated that in this term he will NOT address illegal immigration. Real nice, Obama has time to worry about spending money like a nigger, but he cannot do his part to keep a dangerous element of our society out.

Illegal immigrants commit fraud, rape, kill, abuse children, drink and drive, and cause fights. They are not "looking for jobs" in fact they are looking for the simplest means of producing income without having a functioning brain.

These people cross our borders, immediately committing a federal crime upon entry, and they hold demonstrations promoting illegal immigration. How could you condone this type of faggotry:

8_ScYY__oyk

Additionally, to support illegal immigration is inhumane, for the following reasons: Without documentation an illegal immigrant cannot obtain identification, credit, loans, their jobs are limited, they cannot rent homes in livable conditions, they spend their lives in fear, and many other things.

If you're supposed to be sympathetic to illegals, you should be telling them to leave until they are allowed access.

Illegal immigrants are not screened, 70% of illegals are likely to be violent criminals who do not meet the immigration standards of the United States... We have borders to protect us from people of other countries who decide to come in now, and learn the laws later (if at all)

Best yet, how could this law be considered racial profiling when there are upwards of 22 million illegal immigrants in the united states, and only 600,000 are anything other than mexican.

Most all illegals are Mexican... Mexicans are known to be violent towards women and children, lack education, lack drive, are alcoholics or drug abusers, and general scum.

I don't want any of those flag burning scum bags in my country, and if you're sympathetic towards them, then you should go to Mexico, taking the illegals with you.

BTW, Mexicos illegal immigration laws are stiffer than Arizonas. Just so you know.

[josez]

Illegal immigrants commit fraud, rape, kill, abuse children, drink and drive, and cause fights. They are not "looking for jobs" in fact they are looking for the simplest means of producing income without having a functioning brain.



nope not true. i have known literally dozens and dozens of illegal immigrants and they´re not like that whatsoever.
but thats just my experience with them. i dont know which wylin ass motherfuckers you´ve had to deal with.

[McJigga]

This is not true. If you do not have an ID or cannot prove your citizenship, even after a full investigation, you will be taken to a federal holding station. You do not get deported on the spot, and you DO get investigated, and you CAN call your home to bring your ID or birth cert. This does not allow police to randomly search mexicans.

This law does not endorse or promote racial profiling. If you took as much time reading the law as you did to post it, you would understand that it clearly states that "no investigation should take place based solely on race"

How could an American be against this? Arizona is setting up to do the work the federal government says they will do. There is no hope though, Obama has plainly stated that in this term he will NOT address illegal immigration. Real nice, Obama has time to worry about spending money like a nigger, but he cannot do his part to keep a dangerous element of our society out.

Illegal immigrants commit fraud, rape, kill, abuse children, drink and drive, and cause fights. They are not "looking for jobs" in fact they are looking for the simplest means of producing income without having a functioning brain.

These people cross our borders, immediately committing a federal crime upon entry, and they hold demonstrations promoting illegal immigration. How could you condone this type of faggotry:

8_ScYY__oyk

Additionally, to support illegal immigration is inhumane, for the following reasons: Without documentation an illegal immigrant cannot obtain identification, credit, loans, their jobs are limited, they cannot rent homes in livable conditions, they spend their lives in fear, and many other things.

If you're supposed to be sympathetic to illegals, you should be telling them to leave until they are allowed access.

Illegal immigrants are not screened, 70% of illegals are likely to be violent criminals who do not meet the immigration standards of the United States... We have borders to protect us from people of other countries who decide to come in now, and learn the laws later (if at all)

Best yet, how could this law be considered racial profiling when there are upwards of 22 million illegal immigrants in the united states, and only 600,000 are anything other than mexican.

Most all illegals are Mexican... Mexicans are known to be violent towards women and children, lack education, lack drive, are alcoholics or drug abusers, and general scum.

I don't want any of those flag burning scum bags in my country, and if you're sympathetic towards them, then you should go to Mexico, taking the illegals with you.

BTW, Mexicos illegal immigration laws are stiffer than Arizonas. Just so you know.


Listen, I agree with you on a few things, but overall your post is biased and full of bigotry. Sure we do need to do something about the illegal immigration problem, but the reason is not solely because all Mexicans are criminals. In fact, most Mexicans that come here come here to escape the exact thing you are talking about, but in Mexico.

Most Mexicans are hard-working decent people. Sure they may not be as educated as your average American (which is not saying a whole lot to begin with), but that is not because they are lazy or stupid, it's because they were not afforded that opportunity in Mexico.

Most Mexicans are not drunks and in terms of lacking drive... I will bet anything that they work twice as hard as you, and probably for less pay as well.

The drug stereotype stems from the drug cartel down in Mexico, and while yes, it is a huge problem, saying that all Mexicans are druggies is a ridiculous thing. Keep in mind that most Mexicans come to the U.S to escape from the drug cartels rule over Mexico.

[tm]

Listen, I agree with you on a few things, but overall your post is biased and full of bigotry. Sure we do need to do something about the illegal immigration problem, but the reason is not solely because all Mexicans are criminals. In fact, most Mexicans that come here come here to escape the exact thing you are talking about, but in Mexico.

Most Mexicans are hard-working decent people. Sure they may not be as educated as your average American (which is not saying a whole lot to begin with), but that is not because they are lazy or stupid, it's because they were not afforded that opportunity in Mexico.

Most Mexicans are not drunks and in terms of lacking drive... I will bet anything that they work twice as hard as you, and probably for less pay as well.

The drug stereotype stems from the drug cartel down in Mexico, and while yes, it is a huge problem, saying that all Mexicans are druggies is a ridiculous thing. Keep in mind that most Mexicans come to the U.S to escape from the drug cartels rule over Mexico.

I never said all Mexicans are druggies, but many of them are. This is beyond the point. Mexicans do not deserve a chance in this country unless they EARN it. They do not get to stay just because they came illegally and want to work. You need papers in this country no matter who you are, and shouldn't be given a shot without them.

Illegal immigration = pissing on everyone whos family had to work to be in this country.

[josez]

I never said all Mexicans are druggies, but many of them are. This is beyond the point. Mexicans do not deserve a chance in this country unless they EARN it. They do not get to stay just because they came illegally and want to work. You need papers in this country no matter who you are, and shouldn't be given a shot without them.

Illegal immigration = pissing on everyone whos family had to work to be in this country.
LOL @ many of them are druggies. uh of all the illegal immigrants i have known, and its possibly in the hundreds, all they mostly do is just drink beer. and as far as the entering the country illegally, well they dont have enough work or its too low-paying (heh even in terms of what mexicans will accept) they dont have time to sit around waiting for the giant bureacracy of the INS to allow their papers to come through. it takes years soemtimes. and u act like they come here and live high on the hog, they come here and have to eat shit, live in fear of deportation and then faced with hostile locals who hate their fucking guts.

but i do agree that mexicans should go back to mexico and take it back. the problem is not only cartels but faced with a corrupt government that is in the pocket of american big business. thanks to nafta, american capital is allowed to flow freely back and forth from mexico (most of it being money to the US), but labor is restricted.

[tm]

nope not true. i have known literally dozens and dozens of illegal immigrants and they´re not like that whatsoever.
but thats just my experience with them. i dont know which wylin ass motherfuckers you´ve had to deal with.

I live in LA dawg, I went to school with their kids, I see them attacking people outside of bars, I see them getting away with much more than many other people simply because they know they cannot be found as there is no documentation on them. Many illegal immigrants are nothing more than scum that doesn't deserve to be in a country that offers so many freedoms... These people belong in a desolate baron land that they created. Mexico has been around so much longer than the United States, yet they have no solid infrastructure, currency, or contribution to the world. They are lazy scum looking for a free ride on the backs of hard working Americans. Stop believing everything you read, because there is a strong movement to poison our society by shoving Mexicos unwanted under the border and into our fine country. These are people who do not deserve to be here. Legal immigrants are encouraged to come and enjoy the fruits of our free country... Illegal immigrants are disrespectful scum who should be traded as slave labor as they have no constitutional rights anyhow.

[tm]

well they dont have enough work or its too low-paying (heh even in terms of what mexicans will accept) they dont have time to sit around waiting for the giant bureacracy of the INS to allow their papers to come through

So does this mean since there is no jobs for my family right now, they can break into your home, live there, eat your food, etc? Get real.


and u act like they come here and live high on the hog, they come here and have to eat shit, live in fear of deportation and then faced with hostile locals who hate their fucking guts.

I already addressed this, look at the latter portion of my first post, and you will see the word "inhumane" -- Read that part. It doesn't matter though, they have no rights. I can piss on them, and they cannot do shit to defend themselves because the police will send them back to their shithole country, and they will have to break back into mine, and establish their shithole existence all over again.

but i do agree that mexicans should go back to mexico and take it back. the problem is not only cartels but faced with a corrupt government that is in the pocket of american big business. thanks to nafta, american capital is allowed to flow freely back and forth from mexico (most of it being money to the US), but labor is restricted.[/QUOTE]

[josez]

that has more to do with them coming up in LA pushed into some fucking slum than being something inherent in the people. im from central florida, and we were all straight.

[josez]

So does this mean since there is no jobs for my family right now, they can break into your home, live there, eat your food, etc? Get real.




if u pick my fruit, build a back patio, sweep and mop the floors, cook our meals, sure ill exchange that for room and board

[tm]

that has more to do with them coming up in LA pushed into some fucking slum than being something inherent in the people. im from central florida, and we were all straight.

Funny because the same behavior in Arizona is not only what prompted this new law, and also got an deputy shot just days ago.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gGgzImP2k9_40Sl_i3l7IX2Cn7bgD9FDQO6O1

[josez]

Funny because the same behavior in Arizona is not only what prompted this new law, and also got an deputy shot just days ago.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gGgzImP2k9_40Sl_i3l7IX2Cn7bgD9FDQO6O1
those arent typical illegal immigrants. those are fools in the drug game. a game that is maintained by the american hunger for drugs. tell ur government to legalize it, (and also allow other countries to legalize it) and i bet that violence would be cut by 80%

[tm]

if u pick my fruit, build a back patio, sweep and mop the floors, cook our meals, sure ill exchange that for room and board

I'm also a contributor, who has been screened for any criminality. I am a part of the system, and believe that words can be used before fists. I am educated, non-violent, pro-freedom, pro-legal immigration, and I would never disrespect you or your privacy by just shitting on your border and walking on in.

Why is it that people are so sympathetic towards illegal immigrants, when a child born in America today will not have social security in 60 years? Why should a child born in America have to be spared a full educational experience to entertain the needs of illegal immigrants who violently protest our countries reasonable laws? Why is it suddenly a fad to support illegal immigration?

Illegal immigrants should not be supported, or cared for. Legal immigrants work hard to get here, and "not wanting to stand in line" is not an excuse to shit on all of the people who worked to be part of American society.

[josez]

I'm also a contributor, who has been screened for any criminality. I am a part of the system, and believe that words can be used before fists. I am educated, non-violent, pro-freedom, pro-legal immigration, and I would never disrespect you or your privacy by just shitting on your border and walking on in.

Why is it that people are so sympathetic towards illegal immigrants, when a child born in America today will not have social security in 60 years? Why should a child born in America have to be spared a full educational experience to entertain the needs of illegal immigrants who violently protest our countries reasonable laws? Why is it suddenly a fad to support illegal immigration?

Illegal immigrants should not be supported, or cared for. Legal immigrants work hard to get here, and "not wanting to stand in line" is not an excuse to shit on all of the people who worked to be part of American society.
well i certainly respect that more than THEYRE ALL LAZY SCUM!!!!! RAPISTS AND MURDERERS!!!!!

[tm]

those arent typical illegal immigrants. those are fools in the drug game. a game that is maintained by the american hunger for drugs. tell ur government to legalize it, (and also allow other countries to legalize it) and i bet that violence would be cut by 80%

American drug policy should not be changed to prevent the presence of illegal immigrants commiting crimes ranging from drug trafficking, to rape, to murder, assault, etc.

I've seen border patrol agents being pelted by rocks, being ganged up on by several illegal immigrants, and more.

If we cannot protect our country to Mexicans, what happens when terrorists come in through our southern borders into our largest metropolitan areas, and commit their violent deeds here from within our own country?

[dna]

most of the successful serial killers are white. all fucking whites will take your children, rape them, record their pain and suffering and then continue to kill them and hide the children underneath the floor board.

[mold logic]

[tm]

well i certainly respect that more than THEYRE ALL LAZY SCUM!!!!! RAPISTS AND MURDERERS!!!!!

I wish you could quote me as well as I quote you, because you make me sound like racist scum, and you make yourself sound like a shining example of freedom.

99% of illegal immigrants come from Mexico: fact.
My step father is a Mexican whos family LEGALLY immigrated from the US to Texas in the 50s.
My great grandparents immigrated here LEGALLY from Poland and Germany after world war 2.

I'm not a racist, bigot, etc. I am a concerned American who knows who the criminal is, what they do, and how they operate. It's hardly documented, as illegal immigration is heavily endorsed by our media, which we all know is inaccurate, and has the power to ultimately destroy our nation. People need to stop watching and listening to news sponsered by minority interested groups funded by company like Burger King, McDonalds, Walmart, etc that all are known to have had a strong illegal labor force.

[tm]

most of the successful serial killers are white. all fucking whites will take your children, rape them, record their pain and suffering and then continue to kill them and hide the children underneath the floor board.

[mold logic]

In this country, yes. Most successful serial killers are white. Race has nothing to do with immigration, and I never generalized by saying ALL illegal immigrants are involved with crime, but as they are undocumented you cannot prove they are kind generous hard working people, however the investigations done by our INS holds my point to be much closer to fact than yours, so if you're going to make a statement, you should use your QUOTE and not make yourself look like such a faggot.

[tm]

If you're going to try to debate me, or my logic, you had better properly quote me. I never used any term that would indicate that I'm speaking of ALL mexicans. I'm not stupid, I debate people on these topics that are much smarter than most of you.

[dna]

investigations done by a branch of the government whos soul purpose is to make sure that illegals don't make it into this country. of course they're going to make it seem like all or most of them come here to commit crimes and rape our white women.

shit, the crime rate of blacks in philly is higher than the whites. should we deport them back to africa?

[dna]

also get off your high horse, god damn. no one is impressed.

:horse:

[tm]

Believe what you like about how the government conducts its investigation. You're sitting here saying "fuck our borders" -- who is going to save your ass when youre getting stabbed with a knife because you were promoting illegal immigration?

Our country doesn't need to intake ANYONE as citizens, we DO however... Our laws, and new citizen registration should be respected, and not pissed on by illegal immigrants.

This isn't Mexico, and they aren't welcome here.

...and sorry about my high horse, I just believe that our countries immigration laws are being disrespected, our country is being disrespected, and I am tired of seeing trash from foreign land make it in to our country to do whatever they want.

[craig]

i support racial profiling

[dna]

your ancestors who came to this country were considered trash just as much as the mexicans who are coming here are. have you ever spoken with any illegal immigrants? i mean the ones other than the gang bangers in LA? i'm guessing not.

stop generalizing a larger problem. the people who are coming over here to try and do nothing other than to live a better life are people just like you and i, not a statistic.

[tm]

i support racial profiling

LOL it cant even be considered racial profiling... The law states that no investigation should take place based solely on race... Even if it didn't say that, 99% of all illegal immigrants are from Mexico, so it's quite clear whats up where this massive influx of brown people came from... 22 million people didnt take a boat here from India... that's for sure.

[tm]

your ancestors who came to this country were considered trash just as much as the mexicans who are coming here are. have you ever spoken with any illegal immigrants? i mean the ones other than the gang bangers in LA? i'm guessing not.

stop generalizing a larger problem. the people who are coming over here to try and do nothing other than to live a better life are people just like you and i, not a statistic.

Once again, your inability to read prior to commenting proves my point that you are not of suitable mind for debate. Take a few clicks back, and read my post which mentions my heritage.

My great grandparents legally immigrated here from Poland and Germany after world war two. They were both educators and enhanced the lives and futures of thousands of children, your parents.

[nQthing]

its racial profiling. we should just have better borders. its alot simpler

[tm]

A lot of you guys sound like this caller...

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[Butt Zombie]

Ultimately, I think this is a long-overdue, very positive law. For too long, illegal Mexicans have been coming across our border and raping white women and starting fights outside of bars. Want to stop the skyrocketing rape epidemic and the crippling deluge of bar fights? Easy: Stop the illegal Mexicans from entering America. Want to fix the health care problem in America? Stop illegal Mexicans from using American ERs. It's that simple.

Further, the idea that people need to carry citizenship papers on their person is a brilliant move. Lots of different countries use forms of state-issued ID, but as far as I'm aware, no country in history has considered making it mandatory to carry citizenship paperwork and display them to law enforcement upon request. Tell me that isn't a simple, elegant solution. Tell me that doesn't solve the problem once and for all.

You a citizen? Yes? Then what's the fucking problem? It doesn't effect your ass so shut the fuck up about it. Leave the house to make a 7-11 run at 2AM and forget to take your papers with you? That's your fault, dumbfuck -- don't blame the law, blame your dumb ass for not having your papers on you at all times.

[siniko]

99% of illegal immigrants come from Mexico: fact.

I stopped there, it seems your ignorance is vast.

[tm]

Ultimately, I think this is a long-overdue, very positive law. For too long, illegal Mexicans have been coming across our border and raping white women and starting fights outside of bars. Want to stop the skyrocketing rape epidemic and the crippling deluge of bar fights? Easy: Stop the illegal Mexicans from entering America. Want to fix the health care problem in America? Stop illegal Mexicans from using American ERs. It's that simple.

Further, the idea that people need to carry citizenship papers on their person is a brilliant move. Lots of different countries use forms of state-issued ID, but as far as I'm aware, no country in history has considered making it mandatory to carry papers and display them to law enforcement upon request. Tell me that isn't a simple, elegant solution. Tell me that doesn't solve the problem once and for all.

You a citizen? Yes? Then what's the fucking problem? It doesn't effect your ass so shut the fuck up about it. Leave the house to make a 7-11 run at 2AM and forget to take your papers with you? That's your fault, dumbfuck -- don't blame the law, blame your dumb ass for not having your papers on you at all times.

You know I've always loved you... but seeing that you're not a brain washed failure of an American just makes the tip of my dick wet.

[siniko]

Further, the idea that people need to carry citizenship papers on their person is a brilliant move. Lots of different countries use forms of state-issued ID, but as far as I'm aware, no country in history has considered making it mandatory to carry citizenship paperwork and display them to law enforcement upon request. Tell me that isn't a simple, elegant solution. Tell me that doesn't solve the problem once and for all.

You a citizen? Yes? Then what's the fucking problem? It doesn't effect your ass so shut the fuck up about it. Leave the house to make a 7-11 run at 2AM and forget to take your papers with you? That's your fault, dumbfuck -- don't blame the law, blame your dumb ass for not having your papers on you at all times.
yea faggot lets turn this country in to Russia

[tm]

I stopped there, it seems your ignorance is vast.

Look at the numbers idiot... I wasn't joking, guessing, or anything. Those are REAL numbers.

You seem to be in disbelief... and I LOL at your ignorance, because if you're unaware of how serious this problem is, YOUR ignorance is in fact vast.

[tm]

yea faggot lets turn this country in to Russia

Look at this moron. Do you drive without a license? Or are you just a bum schmuck who has nothing to show, not even ID?

Get real you fucking idiot, this country is not safe without people having identities. It's not hard to get one, but apparently some people are lazy. Illegals are too lazy to work for citizenship, and you're too lazy to do research on topics before you debate them. Even Christian nut jobs make a better debate than you.

[tm]

yea faggot lets turn this country in to Russia

By the way, gays have rights in this country, illegal immigrants do not.

I would rather have a country filled with LEGAL CITIZENS that are gay, than any illegal immigrant of any sexuality.

[tm]

God when people say "a forum filled with dumb teenagers" they really do not put enough emphasis on HOW dumb some of you are. High horse or not, some of you guys are just as dumb as rat shit.

[siniko]

Look at the numbers idiot... I wasn't joking, guessing, or anything. Those are REAL numbers.

You seem to be in disbelief... and I LOL at your ignorance, because if you're unaware of how serious this problem is, YOUR ignorance is in fact vast.
yup i am if the stoopid one

[Butt Zombie]

yea faggot lets turn this country in to Russia

Not too quick on the whole spotting sarcasm thing, are ya?

[tm]

yup i am if the stoopid one

Are you an idiot or something? You're a poster boy for eugenics.

[siniko]

Are you an idiot or something? You're a poster boy for eugenics.
this coming from the guy who doesn't know how percentages work.

[tm]

this coming from the guy who doesn't know how percentages work.

my averaged 99 was generous... Since you are so smart, what is the percentage based on these numbers 22,000,000:600,000?

[siniko]

my averaged 99 was generous... Since you are so smart, what is the percentage based on these numbers 22,000,000:600,000?
im smart enough to know that you got those numbers from FOX NEWS

[16oz]

Mexican President Felipe Calderon has accused Arizona of opening the door "to intolerance, hate, discrimination and abuse in law enforcement." But Arizona has nothing on Mexico when it comes to cracking down on illegal aliens. While open-borders activists decry new enforcement measures signed into law in "Nazi-zona" last week, they remain deaf, dumb or willfully blind to the unapologetically restrictionist policies of our neighbors to the south.

The Arizona law bans sanctuary cities that refuse to enforce immigration laws, stiffens penalties against illegal alien day laborers and their employers, makes it a misdemeanor for immigrants to fail to complete and carry an alien registration document, and allows the police to arrest immigrants unable to show documents proving they are in the U.S. legally. If those rules constitute the racist, fascist, xenophobic, inhumane regime that the National Council of La Raza, Al Sharpton, Catholic bishops and their grievance-mongering followers claim, then what about these regulations and restrictions imposed on foreigners?

— The Mexican government will bar foreigners if they upset "the equilibrium of the national demographics." How's that for racial and ethnic profiling.

— If outsiders do not enhance the country's "economic or national interests" or are "not found to be physically or mentally healthy," they are not welcome. Neither are those who show "contempt against national sovereignty or security." They must not be economic burdens on society and must have clean criminal histories. Those seeking to obtain Mexican citizenship must show a birth certificate, provide a bank statement proving economic independence, pass an exam and prove they can provide their own health care.

— Illegal entry into the country is equivalent to a felony punishable by two years' imprisonment. Document fraud is subject to fine and imprisonment; so is alien marriage fraud. Evading deportation is a serious crime; illegal re-entry after deportation is punishable by ten years' imprisonment. Foreigners may be kicked out of the country without due process and the endless bites at the litigation apple that illegal aliens are afforded in our country (see, for example, President Obama's illegal alien aunt—a fugitive from deportation for eight years who is awaiting a second decision on her previously rejected asylum claim).

— Law enforcement officials at all levels—by national mandate—must cooperate to enforce immigration laws, including illegal alien arrests and deportations. The Mexican military is also required to assist in immigration enforcement operations. Native-born Mexicans are empowered to make citizens' arrests of illegal aliens and turn them in to authorities.

— Ready to show your papers? Mexico's National Catalog of Foreigners tracks all outside tourists and foreign nationals. A National Population Registry tracks and verifies the identity of every member of the population, who must carry a citizens' identity card. Visitors who do not possess proper documents and identification are subject to arrest as illegal aliens.

All of these provisions are enshrined in Mexico's Ley General de Población (General Law of the Population) and were spotlighted in a 2006 research paper published by the Washington, D.C.-based Center for Security Policy. There's been no public clamor for "comprehensive immigration reform" in Mexico, however, because pro-illegal alien speech by outsiders is prohibited.

Consider: Open-borders protesters marched freely at the Capitol building in Arizona, comparing GOP Gov. Jan Brewer to Hitler, waving Mexican flags, advocating that demonstrators “Smash the State,” and holding signs that proclaimed “No human is illegal” and “We have rights.”

But under the Mexican constitution, such political speech by foreigners is banned. Noncitizens cannot "in any way participate in the political affairs of the country." "In fact, a plethora of Mexican statutes enacted by its congress limit the participation of foreign nationals and companies in everything from investment, education, mining, and civil aviation to electric energy and firearms. Foreigners have severely limited private property and employment rights (if any).

As for abuse, the Mexican government is notorious for its abuse of Central American illegal aliens who attempt to violate Mexico’s southern border. The Red Cross has protested rampant Mexican police corruption, intimidation, and bribery schemes targeting illegal aliens there for years. Mexico didn’t respond by granting mass amnesty to illegal aliens, as it is demanding that we do. It clamped down on its borders even further. In late 2008, the Mexican government launched an aggressive deportation plan to curtail illegal Cuban immigration and human trafficking through Cancun.

Meanwhile, Mexican consular offices in the United States have coordinated with left-wing social justice groups and the Catholic Church leadership to demand a moratorium on all deportations and a freeze on all employment raids across America.

Mexico is doing the job Arizona is now doing—a job the U.S. government has failed miserably to do: putting its people first. Here’s the proper rejoinder to all the hysterical demagogues in Mexico (and their sympathizers here on American soil) now calling for boycotts and invoking Jim Crow laws, apartheid, and the Holocaust because Arizona has taken its sovereignty into its own hands:

[BLUNTBILL]

good they should all be shipped back

[josez]

i wish we wouldn't have let in all the irish back in the 1860s-1900. they're all a bunch of lazy drunks who abuse their women and children

[vazel]

My mom said she heard in the news that the courts tamed this law. Please tell me this isn't true. I applaud Arizona for exercising their state's rights.

[16oz]

i wish we wouldn't have let in all the irish back in the 1860s-1900. they're all a bunch of lazy drunks who abuse their women and children

atleast the irish work. mexican's are dirty STUPID smelly lazy good for nothing sacks of shit nbd js

[josez]

atleast the irish work. mexican's are dirty STUPID smelly lazy good for nothing sacks of shit nbd js
yah totally.

[vazel]

I don't like my people but one thing I'll defend them on is that they are not lazy. They work hard at their jobs. The problem is they don't care about schooling which is why they get the shit jobs. My sister said Mexicans only made up like 5% at the community college here and this is a city with like 40% Mexicans.

[Butt Zombie]

I don't like my people but one thing I'll defend them on is that they are not lazy. They work hard at their jobs. The problem is they don't care about schooling which is why they get the shit jobs. My sister said Mexicans only made up like 5% at the community college here and this is a city with like 40% Mexicans.

Even with schooling, you think the good job is going to go to the dark-ass leathery beaner with the shitty low-class accent? GRYF

Or you think the professors are going to take extra time to explain a concept to a good-for-nothing spic in super-faded blue jeans and a baseball cap just because his English is a little shaky?

It's so amazing how people sit around here with their noses high in the air and type out what they feel is some obviously simple solution to a complex problem. If life were really as simple as "uhhhh, well they should just go to school but they don't, huhuhuhuuhuh" do you really think society would still have all these problems?

Anyway, juuust figured I'd get that off my chest. It's not a knock on you or anything, but I just noticed that I've never agreed with anything you've ever said in like 3 years. ROFL :X

[vazel]

Faggit. I'm mexican with 75% family full of losers so I know what I talking about. They don't go to college.

[vazel]

-neg repped.

[Butt Zombie]

Faggit. I'm mexican with 75% family full of losers so I know what I talking about.

Still anecdotal. Just because we are something doesn't mean it applies to ALL of that something. I can't sit here and rattle off simple solutions to complex problems in the gay community simply because I *am* gay.

Also, I +repped you because I believe in heaping coals of love upon the heads of my enemies.

[vazel]

Quit trying to be so open minded faggit all you have to do is live in an American city to know what I say is true.

Thanks for giving me +rep you free loving hippie.

[holstein]

If I want to hire a individual from mexico to mow my lawn for $2/hour, that should be a private commercial transaction, like buying milk at a store or hiring an email advertiser to promote my products.

The fact that an imaginary line drawn by dead politicians prevents me from doing so legally is nothing more than government intervention and market manipulation. It's no different from rent control, bans on certain drugs, bank bailouts, the federal takeover of GM, and any other action that prevents honest commercial transactions from taking place.

What's interesting is that the same people (mostly on the right wing) who would blast a powerful union of for negotiating ridiculously high salaries at the cost of the employers, consumers and entire industries have absolutely no problem with deporting mexicans "to protect american jobs".

[josez]

If I want to hire a individual from mexico to mow my lawn for $2/hour, that should be a private commercial transaction, like buying milk at a store or hiring an email advertiser to promote my products.

The fact that an imaginary line drawn by dead politicians prevents me from doing so legally is nothing more than government intervention and market manipulation. It's no different from rent control, bans on certain drugs, bank bailouts, the federal takeover of GM, and any other action that prevents honest commercial transactions from taking place.

What's interesting is that the same people (mostly on the right wing) who would blast a powerful union of for negotiating ridiculously high salaries at the cost of the employers, consumers and entire industries have absolutely no problem with deporting mexicans "to protect american jobs".
Adam Smith said something about governments shouldn't restrict the free movement of labor, it's the same as restricting the movement of capital.

[holstein]

Adam Smith said something about governments shouldn't restrict the free movement of labor, it's the same as restricting the movement of capital.

Labour IS capital. It's only an unfortunate linguistic accident that the price of labour goes by a different name than all other forms of capital, be it "salary", "wage", "compensation", etc. You are selling your skill/time/effort for money when you work.

Perhaps because of this artificial distinction, otherwise rational proponents of free market capitalism will become whiny little bitch niggers when it comes to the free market determining the price of their own labour-capital. This is why I despise tea baggers.

[Mag]

not a good thing overall, for us actual americans. eventually it will come to the point that if you're walking down the street, you can be stopped for no reason. i know this happens to nigger, but i dont want this happening to me...

very good point. Give power and at some point it will be abused.

[enemy of juden]

josez is like the mestizo version of niggers who defend nigger killers and rapists and riot when they are punished because it was all a frame up by the evil white conspiracy. he explains mestizo failure on the same thing niggers do when confronted with incarceration rates. bad evil whitey wanting to keep good people down just because.
when a horrible white person breaks a law whites dont come out in defense of them and make up rediculous excuses for them. that's the best argument against the "white people do bad things too!" argument. your entire race stands up to defend illegal actions and destruction of civilization.
maybe some of this comes from him being mestizo and not experiencing the hatred and hostility they show to real americans, but i doubt it because he obviously feels the same hatred because he stays in our country.
i cannot accept that he does not know he is lying when he says mestizos are decent people who do not intend to harm america.
oh btw josez, the hatred of irish immigrants is a bad annalogy because it was mostly based on them being catholics.
maybe the mestizos and niggers take the same strategy because they were indoctrinated into kill whitey/western civilization by the jews.
notice how many jewish intrest groups are publicly supporting the invasion, funding the protests, lobby the politicians who allow the invasion, wrote and passed the laws that started the flow of 3rd world scum into america, etc etc. you can draw many paralells to jewish influince in the nigger civil rights era, which was also opposed by a majority of americans.
so, i think a more fitting comparison than the mexican immigration law would be the isralli immigration law. i think the isralli treatment of palistinians would be a good model for how the united states should deal with mestizos.
to anyone who thinks only illegals are the problem is wrong. its genetic. amnisty will only guarentee all of our elected officials will be la raza members within the decade. the united states needs as many white illegal immigrants as possible.
also anyone who thinks the republicans will do anything about the mestizo invasion needs to learn about the power and intentions of jewish lobby groups.
i usually dont promote david duke, but his book chapter, jew led invasion is probably his best work of writing and well sourced if you think the jewish role in american racial demographics is insanity
http://www.davidduke.com/general/my-awakening-chapter-24-the-jewish-role-in-immigration_2518.html

[KOiN]

GOOD.

[enemy of juden]

http://www.newnation.vg/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=209

[Butt Zombie]

Will somebody please tell me what the fuck a mestizo is? If I see that god damn word one more fuckin time I'm gonna start taking hostages.

[emo porn]

this is awesome because it is the first time in decades that a protected class has screamed out racism and everyone said so what. white americans didnt build this civilization to be drained dry by subhumans who could never create such a thing themselves. the truth is this law is racist, but it doesnt matter because all mestizos are scum and our country wont survive another 10 years if a single one of them is allowed to stay. they are just as bad as niggers and they know it themselves. the only reason statistics show mestizos as being better behaved or more intelligent than niggers is because "hispanic" isnt a race and many mestizos are counted as white to skew statistics. the immigration act of 1965 was drafted and promoted by jews for the jewish interest of breeding whites out of existence.
mestizos created mexico. anywhere they go turns into a slum because they are animals. the people in mexico create propaganda for their criminals and underclass to go to america because they dont want to deal with them. if they dont want them back they should be killed. every mestizo is scum. yes, they do collect welfare. when states try to pass laws saying illegals cant get welfare they are called racist and courts strike it down even if the people vote for it.
frankly the argument that we need an idiot underclass to do landscaping and pick fruit is canceled out by the rising rates of autism.
mestizos are obviouslty a problem because of the rate that they breed.
first they will all be deported or killed by the will of the people that no government can overturn or control. real americans are starting to realize this shit isnt in their best intrests and are wondering who is running the show.
after that people will probably do their research and all jews will be killed along with israel being nuked. we cant just ship them all to israel because they are too dangerous. for this to end and for western civilization to survive every jew in the world must be killed.
after that we can deal with the niggers asians and whoever else doesnt fit the criteria of someone who deserves the fruits of white civilization.
the modern american nigger is so used to a life of luxury none of them will survive in africa, so it doesnt matter if we deport or kill them.
when every non white on the face of the earth is killed or residing in their homeland it will usher in a new era of prosparity. all of the problems in every white country are due to forced immigration of sub animal minorities. ever wonder why they dont tell asian or black nations they need to be diverse and accept immigrants who do not belong? it's because the jews are behind all of this. they know whites are the only race capible of producing a functional civilization without any help. if they can destroy this they can enslave the world for their profit.


josez is like the mestizo version of niggers who defend nigger killers and rapists and riot when they are punished because it was all a frame up by the evil white conspiracy. he explains mestizo failure on the same thing niggers do when confronted with incarceration rates. bad evil whitey wanting to keep good people down just because.
when a horrible white person breaks a law whites dont come out in defense of them and make up rediculous excuses for them. that's the best argument against the "white people do bad things too!" argument. your entire race stands up to defend illegal actions and destruction of civilization.
maybe some of this comes from him being mestizo and not experiencing the hatred and hostility they show to real americans, but i doubt it because he obviously feels the same hatred because he stays in our country.
i cannot accept that he does not know he is lying when he says mestizos are decent people who do not intend to harm america.
oh btw josez, the hatred of irish immigrants is a bad annalogy because it was mostly based on them being catholics.
maybe the mestizos and niggers take the same strategy because they were indoctrinated into kill whitey/western civilization by the jews.
notice how many jewish intrest groups are publicly supporting the invasion, funding the protests, lobby the politicians who allow the invasion, wrote and passed the laws that started the flow of 3rd world scum into america, etc etc. you can draw many paralells to jewish influince in the nigger civil rights era, which was also opposed by a majority of americans.
so, i think a more fitting comparison than the mexican immigration law would be the isralli immigration law. i think the isralli treatment of palistinians would be a good model for how the united states should deal with mestizos.
to anyone who thinks only illegals are the problem is wrong. its genetic. amnisty will only guarentee all of our elected officials will be la raza members within the decade. the united states needs as many white illegal immigrants as possible.
also anyone who thinks the republicans will do anything about the mestizo invasion needs to learn about the power and intentions of jewish lobby groups.
i usually dont promote david duke, but his book chapter, jew led invasion is probably his best work of writing and well sourced if you think the jewish role in american racial demographics is insanity
http://www.davidduke.com/general/my-awakening-chapter-24-the-jewish-role-in-immigration_2518.html



go man can u pls use the Enter Key more to space out ur rants.

ty.

[Butt Zombie]

WHAT THE GOD DAMN FUCK IS A FUCKING MESTIZO, SHIT

[barack obama]

josez is like the mestizo version of niggers who defend nigger killers and rapists and riot when they are punished because it was all a frame up by the evil white conspiracy. he explains mestizo failure on the same thing niggers do when confronted with incarceration rates. bad evil whitey wanting to keep good people down just because.
when a horrible white person breaks a law whites dont come out in defense of them and make up rediculous excuses for them. that's the best argument against the "white people do bad things too!" argument. your entire race stands up to defend illegal actions and destruction of civilization.
maybe some of this comes from him being mestizo and not experiencing the hatred and hostility they show to real americans, but i doubt it because he obviously feels the same hatred because he stays in our country.
i cannot accept that he does not know he is lying when he says mestizos are decent people who do not intend to harm america.
oh btw josez, the hatred of irish immigrants is a bad annalogy because it was mostly based on them being catholics.
maybe the mestizos and niggers take the same strategy because they were indoctrinated into kill whitey/western civilization by the jews.
notice how many jewish intrest groups are publicly supporting the invasion, funding the protests, lobby the politicians who allow the invasion, wrote and passed the laws that started the flow of 3rd world scum into america, etc etc. you can draw many paralells to jewish influince in the nigger civil rights era, which was also opposed by a majority of americans.
so, i think a more fitting comparison than the mexican immigration law would be the isralli immigration law. i think the isralli treatment of palistinians would be a good model for how the united states should deal with mestizos.
to anyone who thinks only illegals are the problem is wrong. its genetic. amnisty will only guarentee all of our elected officials will be la raza members within the decade. the united states needs as many white illegal immigrants as possible.
also anyone who thinks the republicans will do anything about the mestizo invasion needs to learn about the power and intentions of jewish lobby groups.
i usually dont promote david duke, but his book chapter, jew led invasion is probably his best work of writing and well sourced if you think the jewish role in american racial demographics is insanity
http://www.davidduke.com/general/my-awakening-chapter-24-the-jewish-role-in-immigration_2518.html


meth

[enemy of juden]

mestizo is the correct term for someone of mixed injun and spainish ancestory, although most all have some negroid admixture.
terms like hispanic or latino are cultural linguistic groups including people of every race, and the media uses them so they can be selective when reporting statistics and demographics by changing the criteria for their agenda.
i like to make the distinction because spainiards are actually pretty respectable people for the most part and the amazing mexican who invented the tv who mestizos use as an example of a good mexican was white.

[Butt Zombie]

mestizo is the correct term for someone of mixed injun and spainish ancestory, although most all have some negroid admixture.
terms like hispanic or latino are cultural linguistic groups including people of every race, and the media uses them so they can be selective when reporting statistics and demographics by changing the criteria for their agenda.
i like to make the distinction because spainiards are actually pretty respectable people for the most part and the amazing mexican who invented the tv who mestizos use as an example of a good mexican was white.

THANK YOU FOR THE DEFINITION YOU CRAZY SON OF A BITCH. IT'S ALL I WANTED. HAVE A GREAT NIGHT

[enemy of juden]

http://www.newnation.vg/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=209

[josez]

quoting urself? no class

[enemy of juden]

i took that wall of text as an attempt to suppress the truth.
they could have put me on ignore if i bother them.
imo my posts are as short as they can be to deliver the same amount of information.
and fyi as far as i know there is no such thing as meth in my area. never seen it for sale, used it, seen it in person or known anyone who claims to use it.
my posts are the result of alcohol.
it's classier than saying nothing when your race is compared to niggers.

[josez]

i could give a shit about my race. i dont buy into fucking herd mentality of identifying yourself with something bigger than yourself to compensate for the fact that one hasn't done much. fuck a race, im just worried about meself and my family.

[Butt Zombie]

i took that wall of text as an attempt to suppress the truth.
they could have put me on ignore if i bother them.
imo my posts are as short as they can be to deliver the same amount of information.
and fyi as far as i know there is no such thing as meth in my area. never seen it for sale, used it, seen it in person or known anyone who claims to use it.
my posts are the result of alcohol.
it's classier than saying nothing when your race is compared to niggers.

Do you still think about dick or not?

[barack obama]

Do you still think about dick or not?

[enemy of juden]

i think about my own dick penetrating vaginas of every racially acceptable woman that is of legal age in the area i am in, and how to greater accomplish that goal. i never actually picture a dick though it is just a variable in theories i work on and could be pictured as anything i understand representing my own penis.
in my time of having sex with women i have gotten much better at doing this in every area i visit, so i think about it less and less as time goes on.
this is the natural state of every male on earth not brainwashed by the jewish media.
picturing any dick as a physical dick is a sign of being indoctrinated by zog along with thinking about sodomy with any lifeform or the racially impure.

[Butt Zombie]

i think about my own dick penetrating vaginas of every racially acceptable woman that is of legal age in the area i am in, and how to greater accomplish that goal. i never actually picture a dick though it is just a variable in theories i work on and could be pictured as anything i understand representing my own penis.
in my time of having sex with women i have gotten much better at doing this in every area i visit, so i think about it less and less as time goes on.
this is the natural state of every male on earth not brainwashed by the jewish media.
picturing any dick as a physical dick is a sign of being indoctrinated by zog along with thinking about sodomy with any lifeform or the racially impure.

ROFL

so, like... do you wanna come over sometime? i'm a good looking guy.. and it wouldn't be gay or anything, it's just natural curiosity and sometimes i like to just talk while i j/o you know, like about football and bitches and shit. hit me up via PM

[enemy of juden]

football has too many niggers. i jack off to pro wrestling.

[Butt Zombie]

football has too many niggers. i jack off to pro wrestling.

yea i agree. let's watch wrestling then. come over. ;x

[ionbladez]

yea i agree. let's watch wrestling then. come over. ;x

might as well get everyone's favorite cereal out
sorry I did this in like 10 minutes on blender :[

http://www.ymtags.net/uploads/471_7918510.jpg

[enemy of juden]

if i hung out with a guy who loves mexicans and niggers i would probably be tried as a traitor by association with the enemy and executed on my return to the confederacy.
what you are proposing is somewhat comparable to a woman with half black kids expecting any decent man to fuck her even out of pity.

edit: i think urkel cereal is the closest to a nigger themed cereal that existed

[qbert]

might as well get everyone's favorite cereal out
sorry I did this in like 10 minutes on blender :[

http://www.ymtags.net/uploads/471_7918510.jpg

should've spent 5 minutes doing it in photoshop and not burned all of our eyeballs out

[Butt Zombie]

if i hung out with a guy who loves mexicans and niggers i would probably be tried as a traitor by association with the enemy and executed on my return to the confederacy.
what you are proposing is somewhat comparable to a woman with half black kids expecting any decent man to fuck her even out of pity.

dude let's just forget about our politics for one night and relax. i have some good german wine and WWF on pay-per-view. edit: UFC :x come over.

[enemy of juden]

ufc is homosexual because of the lack of divas. pro wrestling more of a real sport than ufc because it takes more athletic ability, more training, they get hurt worse, and the rivalries are more often exaggerations of guys who really hate eachother and not totally fabricated.

[Butt Zombie]

ufc is homosexual because of the lack of divas. pro wrestling more of a real sport than ufc because it takes more athletic ability, more training, they get hurt worse, and the rivalries are more often exaggerations of guys who really hate eachother and not totally fabricated.

ok, i ditched the UFC. WWF is fine. you better hurry because i'm already in my boxers and socks and i'm getting ready to lay down in bed and watch the episode of house i missed earlier tonight. it's a queen-size bed, super soft and lots of room so it wouldn't be gay or anything if we lied in it together and just relaxed and whatnot. are you in or out?

[Butt Zombie]

alright whatever. sorry dude, i don't like being jerked around. i like confident guys who know what they want. have fun sleeping by yourself. bye

[enemy of juden]

my boner is spent. i just jacked off on a mexican flag. i didnt remember my ex girlfriend has my digital camera untill it was too late.
maybe next time.
i have never watched house, but another show i highly recomend for jerking off is antiques roadshow on pbs. most of the people are white and amateur types it takes less imagination to have realistic fantasies about. some of the items are sexy too like mechanical things with gears, military relics, slavery memorabilia or anything old that wasnt racist but is now like gollywogs or tin tin comics, any type of gun or chastity device. pretty much when one of those come on i need to take my hand off of my penis immediately to prevent premature ejaculation from overstimulation.

[Butt Zombie]

my boner is spent. i just jacked off on a mexican flag. i didnt remember my ex girlfriend has my digital camera untill it was too late.
maybe next time.
i have never watched house, but another show i highly recomend for jerking off is antiques roadshow on pbs. most of the people are white and amateur types it takes less imagination to have realistic fantasies about. some of the items are sexy too like mechanical things with gears, military relics, slavery memorabilia or anything old that wasnt racist but is now like gollywogs or tin tin comics, any type of gun or chastity device. pretty much when one of those come on i need to take my hand off of my penis immediately to prevent premature ejaculation from overstimulation.

yeah i love antiques roadshow. i'm pretty horny right now, and thinking about that show isn't helping.. lol. i pulled my boxers down so my boner could be free from constriction. did you know that that's more healthy? you have erections several times per night, and it's best to let it extend all the way out. anyway, i'm kind of lazily playing with it right now and i pulled my foreskin back. heh. i always feel weird with my head exposed for some reason.. it's embarrassing or something, but it turns me on even more.

it's too bad you're all spent for the night.

[enemy of juden]

actually i only masturbate about twice a week. the drugs i am court ordered to take have a side effect of lowering my sex drive. part of the jewish conspiracy to lower the birth rate of aryans.
most of my sexual activity involves making women feel foolish or telling them why they are not fit to bear my childeren.
the fact that every woman is more stimulated by being degraded than intercourse is proof that women were made for men and designed by god as perfect partners for true masculinity.
i recomend this sexual activity for only the straightest of men who are the finest examples of humanity so the inferior female will be intemidated by your masculinity enough to know she can pretend to fight off your sexual advances without fear of harming you like she would a weaker being.
the ultimate fantasy of pretend rape should only be carried out on the finest of female specimins because they will follow you around and ask for your hand in marrage after the experience.
my religion allows polligomy but disallows divorce. only up to a point is a growing number of women practical or profitable because i do not allow women to leave the house once married and the church strictly forbids any woman doing work where she is compensated in any material way.

[Butt Zombie]

actually i only masturbate about twice a week. the drugs i am court ordered to take have a side effect of lowering my sex drive. part of the jewish conspiracy to lower the birth rate of aryans.
most of my sexual activity involves making women feel foolish or telling them why they are not fit to bear my childeren.
the fact that every woman is more stimulated by being degraded than intercourse is proof that women were made for men and designed by god as perfect partners for true masculinity.
i recomend this sexual activity for only the straightest of men who are the finest examples of humanity so the inferior female will be intemidated by your masculinity enough to know she can pretend to fight off your sexual advances without fear of harming you like she would a weaker being.
the ultimate fantasy of pretend rape should only be carried out on the finest of female specimins because they will follow you around and ask for your hand in marrage after the experience.
my religion allows polligomy but disallows divorce. only up to a point is a growing number of women practical or profitable because i do not allow women to leave the house once married and the church strictly forbids any woman doing work where she is compensated in any material way.

i'm kinda confused about what you mean by true masculinity. can you come show me :O

[Butt Zombie]

most of my sexual activity involves making women feel foolish or telling them why they are not fit to bear my childeren.
the fact that every woman is more stimulated by being degraded than intercourse is proof that women were made for men and designed by god as perfect partners for true masculinity.


i like to be degraded too. maybe there's something wrong with me and you can fix it so why don't you come tell me how stupid and wrong and pathetic i am and use my body to teach me a lesson. :[

[tha homie]

as tispe would say...

"this new immigration law puts the "panic" in Hispanics"

[enemy of juden]

it's more of a set of beliefs that align you with nature and the noble unperverted ideal of men created in the image of god. it is not really anything you can be shown by sight, as some who have a stereotypical masculine physique are disqualified if the mind is poisoned by jewish ideas. any man who was born healthy without physical disability can be trained to successfully subdue a woman as they are many times weaker than men. intelligence is a masculine trait, as you have probably noticed all women are idiots and in need of masculine guidance to do anything productive. modern techology sprung from masculine minds do not require much physical ability to do masculine deeds of extreme violence. any type of gun can be used to send to hell any woman impregnated by negro rape or even a whole band of attacking negroes if your gun has modern features.

[Butt Zombie]

it's more of a set of beliefs that align you with nature and the noble unperverted ideal of men created in the image of god. it is not really anything you can be shown by sight, as some who have a stereotypical masculine physique are disqualified if the mind is poisoned by jewish ideas. any man who was born healthy without physical disability can be trained to successfully subdue a woman as they are many times weaker than men. intelligence is a masculine trait, as you have probably noticed all women are idiots and in need of masculine guidance to do anything productive. modern techology sprung from masculine minds do not require much physical ability to do masculine deeds of extreme violence. any type of gun can be used to send to hell any woman impregnated by negro rape or even a whole band of attacking negroes if your gun has modern features.

lmao ;x

alright, well.. we coulda had some fun, juden, but i really have to crash or i'll be a complete wreck tomorrow. g'night man <3

[enemy of juden]

just remember that only justified violence is masculine. everything about niggers is against true masculinity as they are simply a test of the faithful presented by god and not real humans.
many weak willed men have turned away from religion from the argument a god who loved humanity would not unleash niggers upon the world. infact, niggers are the spawn of satan like jews, but giod allowed them to stay as punishment for the sins of man. i say a god who let us sin without a warning trying to steer us away from an eternity in hell would be the action of a god who does not love us.

[barack obama]

ily

[qbert]

enemy of juden has 1,096 posts that are c&p worthy if you feel like trolling somewhere

[monomo]

People say the grass always looks greener on the other side, I say fuck your neighbors grass because it is not even yours and it shouldn't matter to you anyways!

I say leave the Illegals alone, they are not here driving bentley's and ferrari's or at least not here in Socal and if you in a "ghetto" neighborhood then Your Doing It Wrong! and GTFO! there is a perfect place for each and everyone of us on this earth, it's your job to find it.

[MAddogMoNOXXidE]

without a warrant cops can't do shit.

unless your on parole or probie. your considered red flaged and can have your vehicle or whoevers vehicle your in, searched

[josez]

unless your on parole or probie. your considered red flaged and can have your vehicle or whoevers vehicle your in, searched
word? i knew u could have ur house and car searched whenever 5-0 feels like, but i didnt know they could search any car your in. brb not hanging out with people on probation or parole nemore

[MAddogMoNOXXidE]

yeah man its fucked,

but idk if its that way everywhere, i know thats what its like here