Mailer question's

[johnsmith555]

hey guys, i was just curious about legit mailing. honestly I don't know much about it. i was just wondering about email lists and mass mailing programs and how they work. if anyone could shed some light on it, it would be much appreciated

thanks in advance.

[Mix]

Google CanSpam

[seth]

Nowadays you better have 10 grand and plenty of time if you want to break in on the scene with remotely respectable results.

[meca]

johnsmith probably the best place to start is to do what mix suggested google can-spam act and learn what the rules are to being bulk email compliant.

After you get the jist of the rules go to www.made2own.com grab yourself a hosting account to host your ads and then invest in a good bulk email program.

Seth is right somewhat i remember back in the day good mailing programs used to cost around 10K. But maybe these days there are cheaper solutions

[seth]

1) Compliant mailing is not for small-time upstarts who are looking to get into marketing. Upstart compliant mailers need to have an existing clients/data/customers, or substantial resources to invest in sourcing recipients and legal/corporate compliance.

If you're looking to get in the game with a shoestring budget, no prior experience/clients/data/customers, and earn a healthy return, then you are going to have to break some rules.

Besides, CAN-SPAM only applies to the United States.


2) Unless you are mailing your own products or services to your clients/lists (read: NO AFFILIATE/CONTRACT MAILING), then you will probably want to stay off M2O. Not only will it cause problems for Mix, but M2O is a professional operation with fast response times. If complaints start to roll in, you will get booted fast. If you're not using BP or HJ boxes, then find a cheap cPanel reseller operation that is neither professional nor a full-time thing. There are plenty of people running small hosting ops as hobbies, and they generally are nowhere near as responsive or scrutinizing of new customers as a professional op. Sign up for a month-to-month plan with a throwaway card. Even the most legal and compliant non-captive ops receive a significant complaint volume, and even if you haven't broken any laws/rules/AUPs, you can still expect warnings/terminations, as no host wants to waste his time responding to complaints for your $10/month account.


3) Spend 3-5k on good mail and list software, and devote the rest to hosting and data. If you're starting out, go with small batches of quality data, rather than bargain basement bullshit (read: OneBedroomApt, et al),

[meca]

A+ post seth

[johnsmith555]

thanks for all the help guys. I guess i should look into my local laws first, before i start anything.

[seth]

With that attitude, your mailing career will be short and unrewarding.

[Sikez]

thanks for all the help guys. I guess i should look into my local laws first, before i start anything.


There are ways to get around laws and keep abuse complaints to a minimum.

I will share one of my no-brainer mailing campaign strategies with you.

Build a social network (fake or not), with fake profiles ect..
Make your mails look like friend invites, just as myspace and other Social Networks do.
(You will be shocked by how many people click the links to add add a friend ect. of a network they never even joined...or did they?
LOL :) )
Add a link to a fake profile that supposably sent them the invite (fill the profiles with adds/pop-ups -make it look professional).
You can also send them to pages that say their account is inactive and they need to re-join, you can either send them off
to some free dating site or even have them join your network and sell their info. ect..

[emo porn]

you need a lot of contacts, money, lists, servers, proxies, a mailing method...

you need to have tons and tons of things in place to make mailing profitable.

also sikez idea is pretty tight.