LOL @ people who "don't do drugs" but drink and/or smoke

[Small_Change]

Shut the fuck up and save me from your hypocrisy.

And if you don't do either....words cannot describe the pity I have for you

[Royalty]

I need to finish The Catcher In The Rye but the book just feels SO rambly. Like I wonder if there's any plot to it whatsoever. I've been home for a week and I haven't picked it up once. I don't know how a book that can be so boring has such a mass appeal to serial killers.

[Royalty]

Sorry I didn't want to make a new thread. Carry on.

[tutton]

Yeah this bugs me. These people wouldn't categorize alcohol as a drug. Get real man!

[pad]

"fuck you and your fuckin' porsche
big wax i crush beats like a chef cooking russian borsch
yeah, eastern european soup references
wax is the weed good in cali? yes it is"

[_Krink]

I need to finish The Catcher In The Rye but the book just feels SO rambly. Like I wonder if there's any plot to it whatsoever. I've been home for a week and I haven't picked it up once. I don't know how a book that can be so boring has such a mass appeal to serial killers.

most nutjobs who like the book prob like it cause they see a resemblance of themselves and there personal thoughts and opinions that they can relate to with the main character. It is a horrible book but, i guess its just like well worded pessimistic perspective on life & people.

[UnluckyXIII]

The Ford Model Year End Sales Event is going on now.

[unholy]

It's fucking hot

[xthexdrizzlex]

[UnluckyXIII]

[enemy of juden]

people who say weed isnt a drug and ian mckay drinking a coke in the cd booklet of the minor thread discography are my favorite parts of this.

strangely, i couldnt find the picture of ian drinking cola on google images, although i very well remember seeing it and have used it to argue many straightedge people and they take it seriously. probably explainable by the punk rock phenomenon of pretending you know what people are talking about because it's usually too obscure for you to have heard of, but a straight edge people control the internet conspiracy is far more amusing.


but yeah, anyone with a sane view on drugs will admit alcohol and nicotine are pretty much the hardest drugs out there.

[Sir Jones]

Hey small_change, I'm doing shrooms tonight for the first time. Any recommendations

[KOiN]

Shut the fuck up and save me from your hypocrisy.

And if you don't do either....words cannot describe the pity I have for you

wat.

drinking isn't illegal, not sure what platform of smoking you're referring to but if it's cigarettes those aren't illegal either.

ingesting/injecting/smoking narcotics is quite the illegal, and potentially deadly. absolutely hazardous to your health. drinking is not quite as hazardous but that depends on the person's drinking habits.

[enemy of juden]

as something alcoholics love to brag about to prove their apathy, i don't know it's truth, but supposedly alcohol is the only drug that can cause death through withdraws.

although alcohol is high too, nicotine makes the top of every experts list on ranking drugs by level of addiction and has the largest industry of addiction treatments of any drug, larger than the sales of many other drugs.
money will get you a lawyer who can make it look like anything illegal never happened, even in one of the most conservative law and order states in america.

as i stated in the oxycottin thread, id switch to opiates to try to ween myself off of alcohol if i had a steady supply, for health reasons alone.

[Royalty]

ingesting/injecting/smoking narcotics is quite the illegal, and potentially deadly. absolutely hazardous to your health. drinking is not quite as hazardous but that depends on the person's drinking habits.

lol what? doesn't any drug depend on your habits? If we were to say take three addicts off the street... a meth addict, a marijuana addict (I know this doesn't exist but bare with me), and an alcoholic the alcoholic is the only one who could die from withdraw.

[Maru]

the other day i recall you talking about hating people that use drugs and then made a thread about drinking...

[theredspecial]

why isn't the Stat_Cunt dupe not permabanned?

[zeekyhbomb]

HEH

[KOiN]

lol what? doesn't any drug depend on your habits? If we were to say take three addicts off the street... a meth addict, a marijuana addict (I know this doesn't exist but bare with me), and an alcoholic the alcoholic is the only one who could die from withdraw.

you're taking my words out of context. small change is calling people who drink hypocrites for knocking those who abuse drugs.

I put it into perspective for his narrow mind. yours isn't any better apparently.

[Maru]

lol what? doesn't any drug depend on your habits? If we were to say take three addicts off the street... a meth addict, a marijuana addict (I know this doesn't exist but bare with me), and an alcoholic the alcoholic is the only one who could die from withdraw.

were you joking about weed addicts not existing?

[worldismine]

Alcohol related deaths out number all the drug related deaths, combined.

Annual Causes of Death in the United States
1.Tobacco 435,000
2.Poor Diet and Physical Inactivity 365,0001
3.Alcohol 85,000
4.Microbial Agents 75,000
5.Toxic Agents 55,000
6.Motor Vehicle Crashes 26,347
7.Adverse Reactions to Prescription Drugs 32,000
8.Suicide 30,622
9.Incidents Involving Firearms 29,000
10.Homicide 20,308
11.Sexual Behaviors 20,000
12.All Illicit Drug Use, Direct and Indirect 17,000, 5
13.Non-Steroidal Anti-Inflammatory Drugs Such As Aspirin 7,600

[josez]

i dont care for drinking. i think its more dangerous than smoking weed.

[cudd]

its ian mackaye

[theredspecial]

why isn't the Stat_Cunt dupe not permabanned?

[cudd]

i dunno bout you but i think Terminator Salvation was pretty bad ace.

[KOiN]

Alcohol related deaths out number all the drug related deaths, combined.

eh, it's only because more people use alcohol

and those deaths are normally like alcohol related, meaning they were under the influence

drug deaths are usually straight up overdoses, doubt more people are dying of alcohol poisoning than drug overdoses, even if you consider the difference in users

[ScoaR]

eh, it's only because more people use alcohol

and those deaths are normally like alcohol related, meaning they were under the influence

drug deaths are usually straight up overdoses, doubt more people are dying of alcohol poisoning than drug overdoses, even if you consider the difference in users

man you said way too many things in that comment that are invalid without providing sources

[josez]

u can also overdose on fat-soluable vitamins.

[theredspecial]

u can also overdose on fat-soluable vitamins.

lol so true A+

[joccy]

i think when people say they don't do drugs its really more of a social bullshit thing- i don't do anything illegal

you can say 'i dont do drugs' &still acknowledge that alcohol, nicotine, and caffeine are drugs

it makes more sense to say 'i dont do drugs' with the added clarification that you don't smoke, or dont drink etc

hypocrisy? i don't think it always is

[Royalty]

you're taking my words out of context. small change is calling people who drink hypocrites for knocking those who abuse drugs.

I put it into perspective for his narrow mind. yours isn't any better apparently.

My mind is narrow because you made an idiotic claim? Oh well in that case I should open in WIDE and say all kinds of stupid ass moronic claims so I can look intelligent.

were you joking about weed addicts not existing?

No. Weed is not addictive. Some people feel they need it to function but it's entirely mental. It has no physical withdraw symptoms and/or side effects. All the other drugs I mentioned are.

[Royalty]

man you said way too many things in that comment that are invalid without providing sources

Most things he says in any debate are usually stupid as fuck. He just wants to hold the moral high ground. It's okay, some people are pretentious faggots with no sense of self and will listen to any bullshit the mainstream feeds them. ^_^

[josez]

Most things he says in any debate are usually stupid as fuck. He just wants to hold the moral high ground. It's okay, some people are pretentious faggots with no sense of self and will listen to any bullshit the mainstream feeds them. ^_^

in before 'property of koin' avatar is enforced.

[theredspecial]

royalty wants to OD on cock and has tried many times

[joccy]

No. Weed is not addictive. Some people feel they need it to function but it's entirely mental. It has no physical withdraw symptoms and/or side effects. All the other drugs I mentioned are.

there are proven weed withdrawal symptoms for heavy users that quit

[Freq]

You can still be addicted to something, even if it's not a physical/chemical addiction.

BTW, I drink but I don't smoke (weed or otherwise) because I can't tolerate inhaling smoke. Also weed is one of the worst smells over, I don't understand how you fucking drug addicts can stand that shit. Blows my god damn mind.

[Royalty]

You can still be addicted to something, even if it's not a physical/chemical addiction.

BTW, I drink but I don't smoke (weed or otherwise) because I can't tolerate inhaling smoke. Also weed is one of the worst smells over, I don't understand how you fucking drug addicts can stand that shit. Blows my god damn mind.

I think it smells amazing.

[mattersfool]

yeah i love the smell of weed man you're weird

[ScoaR]

i'm sure poop would smell awesome if it cured hangovers or got you high/drunk
I think everyone would think weed smelled like shit if they had never smelled it before and didn't know what it was

smell is relative

[Royalty]

i'm sure poop would smell awesome if it cured hangovers or got you high/drunk
I think everyone would think weed smelled like shit if they had never smelled it before and didn't know what it was

smell is relative

I remember when I was real young and when I was still on this morally superior "drugs are bad mmmkay" kick because that's all I heard all my life I spelled pot for the first time and even then I thought it smelled good as fuck.

[KOiN]

man you said way too many things in that comment that are invalid without providing sources

drug deaths are usually straight up overdoses, doubt more people are dying of alcohol poisoning than drug overdoses, even if you consider the difference in users

http://www.alcoholalert.com/drunk-dr...tatistics.html

year 2008
# of alcohol related deaths 37,261
# of drunk driving fatalities 13,846

so that leaves 23,775 alcohol related deaths unaccounted for. I'm going to say I HIGHLY doubt they're all alcohol poisoning, but just for your boner I'll stick with the possibility that every one of those 23,775 deaths were all alcohol poisoning (overdosing on alcohol).


http://www.medicinenet.com/script/ma...ticlekey=92877

In 2006, about 24,000 people died in the U.S. from accidental drug overdoses, she says. That's a 100% increase from 2000.

and that's 2006, 2 years earlier than the trend I compared it to. although the numbers are close here, if I had a 2008 statistic to compare it to, I'm sure they would be a bigger difference. clearly the rise in all substance deaths would increase at the respective rates.

I'm only saying that alcohol related deaths are usually due to the actions one person may engage in while intoxicated, which easily outweigh drug overdose rates but above I have essentially proven that alcohol overdoses are not nearly as common as drug overdoses. it would be entirely silly to suggest otherwise.

thanks for making me google it for you.

[ScoaR]

thanks for making me google it for you.

You have given out too much Reputation in the last 24 hours, try again later.

[theredspecial]

i would bet most alcohol related deaths have other factors and are still considered alcohol related

[KOiN]

i would bet most alcohol related deaths have other factors and are still considered alcohol related

of course man. I bet like 2% of all alcohol related deaths are due to "alcohol overdose". royalty has nothing to say now that I've cut his argument into little pieces and hid it behind his avatar

[Royalty]

Your argument was that alcohol is super cool because it has no risks whatsoever. However all I'm seeing you do is make a lot of unsubstantiated claims that alcohol is a safe drug because "people don't overdose". Alcohol effects the liver, kidneys, colon, brain, etc. All of which can lead to cancer and various other kinds of diseases. Alcohol related deaths isn't just about alcohol poisoning. Just because something is "legal" doesn't mean it's better. Are you really that much of a moron? Weed has none of these problems and it's an illegal drug, but you're absolutely right mister High Horse. Alcohol is obviously and okay drug and lots of people should drink it because it's legal and our legal system obviously makes a lot of sense and America is the best country in the world.

[Royalty]

Also I'm sorry I don't F5 waiting for someone to answer my question on the Internet. I do have other obligations/hobbies that don't involve a silly ass forum. Rofl.

[Royalty]

OH GOD I JUST DESTROYED KOIN IN THIS ARGUMENT HE DIDN'T ANSWER IN 2.4 SECONDS LOL I'M SO COOL.

[worldismine]

Who cares if the death was caused by a car accident. some drunk frat boy hitting you with a bat or a poke in the eye with a sharp stick. Alcohol is a major factor in all of those situations and the end result is death. So overdosing on H or some drunk hick blowing his head off with a gun the end result is still death in both cases. That makes alcohol just as dangerous as all the common illegal drugs.

OD'ing on alcohol is difficult but you can die just as easy as some retard on PCP jumping off a building because he thinks he can fly.

Alcohol effects the liver, kidneys, colon, brain, etc. All of which can lead to cancer and various other kinds of diseases. Alcohol related deaths isn't just about alcohol poisoning. Just because something is "legal" doesn't mean it's better.

Coming from a family of drunks i can verify this. My grandpa was an average beer drinker (had 3 beers a day, every day pretty much all his life.) He died from liver sclerosis leaving behind a 530,000 hospital bill. My uncle is 35 and is an avid beer drinker .... He will be dead soon as he is falling apart (liver almost gone)

[lxuke]

ethanol is a drug
nicotine is a drug

simple as that

[lussuria]

Eh. I smoke, and drink sometimes, and chose not to use any other substances, its not a moral thing, its a preference thing. Does that make me a hypocrite?

Additionally, I know where my alcohol and cigarettes are coming from, and what they contain. I you can't say that about most drugs unless you are the only person who has handled them ever. I'd rather have a cigarette that I know contains 'x' amounts of harmful things than do some random drug that could have a myriad of other things mixed in, vary in concentration from time to time, and be totally unpredictable. I think if I had any interest in drugs, that might deter me.

Idk, I don't really care for weed, and I've never tried anything else, nor do I care to.