Just lost 90% of my backlinks overnight. Anyone else experience this?
I had 40k on Google Webmaster Tools and when I checked today I only had 4k. Noticed a significant drop in site visits as well. Any ideas why this may have happened so suddenly? I've been getting mainly xrumer backlinks off of fiverr, but most of them have stuck for months now and been slowly building. This was just a sudden drop of 90%.
sandbox'd and I'm not talking about iraq or afghanistan.
Thanks for the info. This sucks, but it's all a learning process.
Originally Posted by toohxc
This is my first time getting sandboxed and I know almost nothing about it. I'm still getting Google traffic, just significantly less. In the future what should I do to prevent this from happening to my other sites, and is there any way I can salvage this site now?
Should I just keep building backlinks to it and have my fingers crossed, or should I drop it and move on to other things?
Is there any way I can determine what exactly caused me to get sandboxed in the first place, so I can refrain from repeating that in the future?
I wouldn't use xrumer as your sole method of backlinking. My guess is this is what got your sandboxed. You have to be very careful with xrumer.
ive never been sandboxed but its not perm. and you will eventually be back into the game.
gotta get legit and diversified backlinks.
Understood. Should I start doing spun articles and link wheels? Not sure what other alternatives I have. I've got a decent amount of links coming in from Youtube and Tumblr that weren't removed, so I'm assuming those help and are considered pretty legit.
Originally Posted by headiez
man you nurgaz is crazy. xrumer is not for direct links. i mean sure, you COULD create all the direct spam links you want using xrumer. blasting thousands upon thousand a day. then again, that's almost guaranfuckingteed to get you sandboxed as it creates an obvious footprint. the key is to just think natural. don't just use the same old tools and services that every other fool doing "seo" is using... throw some creativity into the mix and go and manually create some accounts on high pr sites that allow you to, in some manner, create backlinks to your site(s).
link wheel if you want, i've never noticed any difference. i don't. generate some content however you choose be it write some original, buy from an article writing service or virtual assistant, or simply steal it and rewrite or spin. it's in your best interest to utilize highly spun content that is relevant to your target keywords and to drip it until the rapture comes. make sure you diversify your links as opposed to utilizing a sole piece of software or service for your links (can't stress this point enough).
if you're just getting into this, you've got a lot of learning to do. in order to figure this shit out, i'd suggest a number of things:
1) find a friend who knows seo like the underside of their balls... i mean the back of their hand
2) read, read, read, and watch some video tutorials
for the third, experiment, i would suggest allocating small chunks of cash in order to split test methods. easy way, though this isn't the most scientific experiment you could conduct, would be to take a target keyword phrase and to obtain some keyword stuffed domains. next, slap together two quick sites using some original content and take care of all of your on-site seo factors such as meta tags. once you've got your two sites up and running, start monitoring their rankings in the serps in order to get an idea of where they stand naturally before you begin throwing links at them. now that you have the two similar sites competing for the same phrases, you can begin a side by side comparison of various methods of creating backlinks in order to determine which is the most efficient and to additionally weed out methods that are counterproductive.
the key when experimenting is to mass experiment. split test. don't just make two sites, start throwing links at them, and then sit back and watch and see what happens. instead, do yourself a huge favor and allocate your time towards multiple projects of this nature in order to have numerous experiments running at any given time. additionally, if your experiments are successful, you'll obviously have some high ranking sites for the terms you chose which you can monetize at your leisure.
sorry i'm not here to spoon feed you my methods. the best advice i can give you is to make it look natural. obviously it doesn't have to be natural, you can cut corners here and there with automation and spinning, but at the end of the day you want the search engines to believe that the manifestation of backlinks was entirely natural and not induced by some hackerish/spammerish manipulator of serps.
take it all in with a grain of salt.
Nice post. +REP
Originally Posted by M1000
Link building for SEO is all about link diversity.
You need to be doing a lot more backlinking and thinking besides shitty xrumer and scrapebox blasts. Also FYI in the most recent Panda update xrumer forum blasting and article spam backlinks were greatly devalued.
You should plan out a 3-4 month SEO strategy for your website.
Month 1 - Press Releases
Month 2 - Social Bookmarking BLs
Month 3 - High PR .com/.net/.org and .edu backlinks
Month 4 - be creative & unique
Also its a + to update your website frequently and make sure our website has an account on Twitter and fan page on Facebook.
And on a hunch, from the kind of linking building you are doing (off fiverr LOLOL), I'd be willing to bet your website is some shitty MFA with little to no content or value for a user to find useful.
in SEO, you get what you pay for. If you want decent SERP results for a high volume kW, expect to pay 4-5 figures a month easily. if you are paying some indian or paki $5 to give you 10k backlink blasts, welp, lets just say simply that you're an idiot and know nothing about SEO.
Last edited by Thoreau; 09-17-2011 at 09:27 PM.
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Originally Posted by Thoreau
Originally Posted by M1000
Originally Posted by Thoreau
Hey! I resent that!!! I happen to use Pakistani and Indians for verified 2X email addys from Fivver all the time. Someones gotta do the grunge work and send me spreadsheets for twenty bucks. LMFAO.
Seriously, you can't get good SERP if you don't have good contents and creditable sources for your Facbook likes, Google +1s, Avalance of RTs and Diggs. It takes time to build up social network accounts and like fine wine, tens of thousands of aged accounts that is worked low and slow is hundreds of times better than a scrapebox or xrumer blast any day. 40K of backlinks amounts to dumbass link-spamminng and you'll get nailed on relevancy metrics almost 100% of the time.
Google evolve Panda evaluation algorithms and heuristics all the time. I am proud to say that I've never lost an account and I take the time to purify my database before I let the bots loose just so I don't get nailed by akismet / Botscout and waste times with the nofollows. I spend time before I try to monetize, may not make gazillions but it's not bad way of paying for toys
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