Adobe Flex 3 + Oracle DB 11 + ColdFusion Server 8

[Vershun]

IIRC nofx made a thread about Flex and I think a couple of you guys have used it.

My question: What's the learning curve for any of the 3 programs above?

I have to utilize them for a stupid independent study at school. Evidently I'm not busy enough as it is.

[Vershun]

Bump. Some of you have to be good for something.

[312c]

also cocks

[cit1]

Bump. Some of you have to be good for something.

also cocks

I rest my case

[djmollusk]

I have an oracle certified Taiwanese friend from college. Been consulting here on Oracle a lot lately. I need some Asian female coding slaves.

[rerun]

A fella of your stature could handle Flex and Coldfusion no problem. I've never used Whoracle, but shouldn't be a problem either.

[sn1per]

I'm not sure of the first 2, but i was an entry level CF program back in the day, and I can tell you this, CF was an EASY language back then to learn, revered as being an easy language to learn because of it being tag based etc. I was able to pick it up quick, using an informix backend for the DB.
Flex I would suppose may be a bit harder because it is so new and not many resource yet. Oracle, not sure.

[awol]

Flex is pretty easy, especially for people like me that can't really code in the "Timeline".

I don't like CF and I've found that it's performance lags WAY behind either PHP or .NET.

Oracle has it's uses, but depending on what you're planning to use it for I wouldn't use it in a high traffic environment. MySql performs much better (and is free). SQL Server Enterprise is the best, but very expensive. But I managed to support 2,000,000 concurrent users on one dual-xeon 64GB box (with 80% load, but still).

[Vershun]

Flex is pretty easy, especially for people like me that can't really code in the "Timeline".

I don't like CF and I've found that it's performance lags WAY behind either PHP or .NET.

Oracle has it's uses, but depending on what you're planning to use it for I wouldn't use it in a high traffic environment. MySql performs much better (and is free). SQL Server Enterprise is the best, but very expensive. But I managed to support 2,000,000 concurrent users on one dual-xeon 64GB box (with 80% load, but still).

Yeah this is just a toy app to play with some new technologies, not going for performance or anything (actually these are all developer licenses so ColdFusion Server will only allow 2 concurrent connections max).

We're actually not going to be using any CF markup we're just using the server because it works better with Flex evidently.

But yeah the general consensus from what I've heard is MSSQL for a serving database and Oracle DBs for clustering/data warehousing/data mining ops.

But yeah the engineering program here is from the 80's so this prof just wanted us to use some of the newer stuff. He also believes (I tend to agree with him) that PHP/AJAX is on the outs.


And omg real replies ty luvs <3.

[awol]

Unfortunately, I don't think PHP is going anywhere. You can easily do anything with it because it's open source and there are just so many people coding for it.

Especially shitty ass CMS products like Drupal... One of my clients use Drupal and I shit you not, they get 20requests/second max out of it. The profile pages run something ridiculous like 400-600 queries, with caching enabled.

[Shifty]

this top1c = sounds like toothbrush brands

[awol]

MySpace sold for $550million+
Facebook recently valued at $15billion+
MySql sold for $1billion+

developing > spamming * 1,000,000

I'm not knocking spamming, since I did it for a long ass time, but once you've received a ton of 5-figure checks, it's not nearly as exciting anymore. You can receive 5-figure checks twice a month for 100 years and not hit $1,000,000,000. As boring as it may be to some, any bit of knowledge is the dev industry is good knowledge...


In closing:

N3rDPRiDe

[sn1per]

MySpace sold for $550million+
Facebook recently valued at $15billion+
MySql sold for $1billion+

developing > spamming * 1,000,000

I'm not knocking spamming, since I did it for a long ass time, but once you've received a ton of 5-figure checks, it's not nearly as exciting anymore. You can receive 5-figure checks twice a month for 100 years and not hit $1,000,000,000. As boring as it may be to some, any bit of knowledge is the dev industry is good knowledge...


In closing:

N3rDPRiDe

Real talk.

[awol]

"even the brokest jew has gold"


but only the richest jew has a private plane take him to his private island in Fiji.

[Vershun]

Aye I don't think PHP will go anywhere for a while, but from what I've seen decent-sized sites are definitely shying away from it, even with a lot of new PHP framework incentives.

[awol]

Personally, I like coding in .NET/C# a lot better...

[Vershun]

Personally, I like coding in .NET/C# a lot better...

I've done a stand-alone C# program; it's an extremely nicely built language. How is it for webpages?

My main experience with web stuff is with PHP but I'm doing a fairly large-scale webpage using Java with Struts now and I'm enjoying it a lot.

[emo porn]

"even the brokest jew has gold"

lol what kind of quote is that?

are you jewish?

[awol]

yea, i am (by birth, but i don't believe/exercise)

and i was pretty sure that was a sn1per quote. that's why i quoted it. :P

[boz]

jews and your second hidden bag of jew gold

[emo porn]

yea, i am (by birth, but i don't believe/exercise)

and i was pretty sure that was a sn1per quote. that's why i quoted it. :P

i knew it

only a jew would spew out such bs jewish propaganda lol

[awol]

I've done a stand-alone C# program; it's an extremely nicely built language. How is it for webpages?

.NET is great for webpages. That's what I was referring to in the last post.

The biggest issue is that Microsoft (and the rest of the World) teaches the "control" method of using .NET where all the functionality is wrapped up into OO classes (Repeaters, DataLists, Buttons, Textboxes, etc) - but the real strength in .NET comes from using simple for-loops and basic I/O like you would in a php script. I've gotten up to 800-1200/avg rps on a standard dual-core, running on a social network site.

[awol]

i knew it

only a jew would spew out such bs jewish propaganda lol

"jewish propaganda" needs a catchy word that means it...i'd say something like jewganda, but that sounds like an African country...

[Vershun]

God damn it nofx I know you know some Flex post relevant shit ITT.

wuvs <3.

[awol]

[emo porn]

God damn it nofx I know you know some Flex post relevant shit ITT.

wuvs <3.

IM me on aim

[StandardProtocol]

im teaching myself flex , its not too bad coming from a heavy AS background

[Vershun]

im teaching myself flex , its not too bad coming from a heavy AS background

What's the learning curve on that (for a programmer)? :x

I hear it's a bit like JS.

[StandardProtocol]

not too bad.. I'm taking a C++ course right now (ass backwards i know) but i'd say its mostly just using javascript/AS in an XML format from what ive gathered so far. - im dumb as shit when it comes to server-side, but flex should be alright for ya. I bought the Adobe Flex 2 guide and its a little dry - try to find some better material

[Vershun]

Flex is fucking cool. AIR is pretty fucking spectacular as well.

Holy fuck Oracle is installing and is eating my HD alive. 2 fucking gigs for a test database? Better massage my penishair.

[Vershun]

btw Oracle 11g just finished installing after 1 hour and 4 minutes.

Longest. Installation. Ever.

[ChewY]

"even the brokest jew has gold"


but only the richest jew has a private plane take him to his private island in Fiji.

blasphemy!

[awol]

[dalink]

Evidently I'm not busy enough as it is.

only 10,000 posts.. 4real

[Vershun]

only 10,000 posts.. 4real

2.5 years.

[Vershun]

The Flex + ColdFusion dynamic is probably the coolest thing I've ever seen that has to do with web development.

[son]

^

[ABBY]

I am first time visiting this nice forum, my freinds are alwasys asking me for the good recourses to read out and now I am gonna suggest them this nice one

[cr_0]

i hate coldfusion, haven't tried flex. php 4 eva

[Zordran]

MySpace sold for $550million+
Facebook recently valued at $15billion+
MySql sold for $1billion+

developing > spamming * 1,000,000

I'm not knocking spamming, since I did it for a long ass time, but once you've received a ton of 5-figure checks, it's not nearly as exciting anymore. You can receive 5-figure checks twice a month for 100 years and not hit $1,000,000,000. As boring as it may be to some, any bit of knowledge is the dev industry is good knowledge...


In closing:

N3rDPRiDe

I call shit on the idea that you're just going to be the idea man then someone will magically come along and develop your exceedingly complex website for you. A real job > freelance developing > spamming. Unless of course you're going to make the next facebook, because thats totally possible.

Flex is actionscript which is nearly java and could get you decent money.
Oracle DBA's make huge bank (think 150k/year), but the shit sucks.
Fuck cold fusion.

[Vershun]

Holy fucking bump this thread is over 2 years old.

I've been working a 9-5er doing Flex/Java for over a year now :O.

Actionscript isn't like Java at all ;x.

Edit: I'm also going to plug this since just posted it a couple days ago: http://www.vershun.com/uncategorized...-frontend.html